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Dark cloudes and fear

Dark cloudes  and fear
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Copyright: John van Aarle (JohnTulip) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3349 W: 798 N: 8612] (35303)
Genre: Places
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2008-05-08
Categories: Decisive Moment, Action
Camera: Canon 400D Rebel XTi, Sigma AF 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS, B-W UV
Exposure: f/10.0, 1/4000 seconds
More Photo Info: [view]
Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
Date Submitted: 2008-06-08 7:47
Viewed: 3761
Points: 86
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
Fear !

European Football (Soccer) competition
and our ( other European Countries ) worries are .. To face a a Greek team with five to eleven Ev zones in there National Greek team ( leg action here !!)

For young men at least six feet tall,
it is a great honor to become one of the Ev zones,
the primarily ceremonial Greek National Guard.

Look to the formidable 'leg' action of this guy .. and picture yourself as an opponent ..facing 10 /11 couples of legs like these here in front of you !

Anyway folks .. photo taken in beauty full Athens about 3 weeks ago

Athens (Athina) is named after Athena,
the goddess of wisdom, who, according to legend,
won the patron ship over the city after defeating Poseidon in a duel.

So.. may the best team win and I am really sorry to find out Belgium
and Great Brittani are not part of the event !

Than.. A few photo's back I posted a photo of an older
Greek Gentleman in a beautiful Greek dress .. saying ..
*How would our Greek friend Vasilis Sinopoulos ..in TL..
*Vsinopoulos* would look in that ..
That question was also fired to me by some TL members..
Well there Question has been answered by my GOOD friend
the same Vasilis .. just see the WORKSHOP pleases

Something else

TL member *Wallie* Don Wallenstein and i are following a photo course
and like to share a FANTASTIC part of info we learned

About Tripods and Mono pods

You hate , like me , to walk around with a tripod?
That can be history from now on

This is what you do.. take a part of string 2 mtrs/ yards
Make a loop at one end and put it around you camera
somewhere in the middle / center

Let the loose end fall on the ground and place your foot on it..
half way ..step on it .. and pull camera upwards ..while putting pressure
on the string .. when you rached eye.. firmly block string with foot
and now push camera tight up .. and make your photo's

It is the reversed method of a 'mono pod'

Goodluck with it Folks

John T

A Greek Quote:
Since we cannot change reality, let us change the eyes which see reality.”

Nikos Kazantzakis


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ThreadThread Starter Messages Updated
Quite interestingJohnTulip 3 06-15 18:02
To ScottHale: no probelm Scott !JohnTulip 3 06-11 14:50
To Silke: see all of his foot?JohnTulip 10 06-10 21:46
To rewshearer: Thanks RewJohnTulip 2 06-10 00:02
To Photograph2u: no SisJohnTulip 4 06-09 16:36
To norenastramus: Hoi Johnnorenastramus 1 06-09 14:11
To Hendrika: 'Vreest' niet mijn kindJohnTulip 4 06-09 11:42
To lisapw1: oh ohJohnTulip 2 06-09 07:48
To sorinabal: ThanksJohnTulip 1 06-08 11:58
To Janone: hoi JanJohnTulip 1 06-08 10:34
To vsinopoulos: hahahahaJohnTulip 1 06-08 10:31
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Good morning Johnny,
Oh..now here we see this "sexy legs" guy full in action :D
I like this composition, well place in the frame.
You got right time with his leg up.
It is a nice photo, with lots of details, and I like the color tones here (earthy).
BTW, that seems very hard way of marching...
Have a wonderful Sunday

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  • Fons Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1165 W: 2 N: 215] (16615)
  • [2008-06-08 8:21]

mooie foto.. het is een traditie
kledij maartoch belachelijk.
voorbeeld van een schop in het achterwerk!

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  • juyona Gold Star Critiquer [C: 2585 W: 1 N: 425] (10173)
  • [2008-06-08 9:15]

Hola amigo,
dificil disparo y excelente foco...
buena captura amigo :^)
buena presentación,
saludos John

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  • jan515 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2792 W: 58 N: 4702] (20934)
  • [2008-06-08 9:24]

Hallo John,
Heut bei Dir wie sehe ist Grichis,well composed and wonderful contrast and model.
Liebe Grüße aus Freising.

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  • trekks Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1995 W: 141 N: 3390] (13665)
  • [2008-06-08 10:03]

hi John

I simply love the shoes and the way he walks. Fantastic capture. A great pov really. Such a unique subject. Excellent work.

tfs, bill

Hello John,

Very good thought to use the Evzones to play, but I think the "Foustanella" will be a problem!lol!!! Very good shot, nicely composed and very good lighting and detail.
Now about the ws What can I say, you definitely can be Greek! You look majestic in this traditional costume. I feel that I will shortly appear probably as a Dutch Master!lol!!

Nou, als ze zo voetballen, dan kan zelfs ons elftal hier wel van winnen, toch ? Schiet mij maar lek.! haha
Excellent 'action'-'shot'.
The winner shoots them all.
Groeten van Jan

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  • azaf1 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 733 W: 61 N: 1257] (7137)
  • [2008-06-08 11:06]

Geia sou John
Great WS. PS does great work. The Evzone captures are really good. I like the freezing of specific movements and the colors.
Kali evdomada

you forgot to add a ball on the right foot, nice shot

I wish I could raise my leg that high! HAHA! Very nice shot John! LOVE the shoes! I must have some! Nice work here!~good composition and very interesting notes!

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  • sela Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 633 W: 11 N: 1379] (8213)
  • [2008-06-08 13:09]

You shot really at the right moment. Great snapshot.Regards Rose und gute Nacht:-)))

Just managed to get that foot in John, it is though he is resting it on the frame. Good colour and nice control of the light. Regarding the workshop, nice workby Vassilis but I don't think the hairstyle and beard quite go with the costume, Constantinos would look good in it :). TFS,

I didn't "get" the very tight crop, John... until I read your note, that is. Ah, forget about the Belgians not playing in the EC... they're not worth it. But a team of Evzones might prove invincible indeed ☺^☺.
I like the low angle you used here, though it's not low enough to show if they wear panties or stockings LOL.

John, a couple of shots ago, when you first posted the legs of an evzone, you said you couldn't possibly be one because you're too short. I guess you told a little lie on tl, because I caught you red-handed err... red-hooded! (see ws).

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  • Kiwis Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1273 W: 0 N: 189] (13118)
  • [2008-06-08 15:51]

Hi John,
Quel beaux souliers!! La nouvelle mode qui s'en vient? :)) Belles jambes musclées en plus :))) Belle composition et beau cadrage.
A bientôt my friend

Oh good, more guys in skirts. And they have guns now :-).
Excellent capture.
Excellent sharpness and details.And thanks for the tip.

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  • boonie Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1234 W: 64 N: 1548] (7842)
  • [2008-06-08 16:13]

Great idea on the string, seems I read about that in some magazine and never did try it. But the master says it will work I will try.
The writing on the wall add to my interest as well as those shoes. Greece is on our to do list. I'm enjoying your posting from the Isles.


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  • chrisJ Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4430 W: 637 N: 9632] (55124)
  • [2008-06-08 16:54]

Hi John

The quintessential Greek soldier shot. A superb profiled view, with good sharpness & framing. Excellent colour, & yes, they also make formidable soccer players!

When I visited Athens, couple of couple of years back, :), I didn't have my nowadays beloved Nikon, but instead I had a soap-format camera with regular Kodak film... By the time I left Greece I had 5 or 6 rolls worth of shots, which I entrusted to my husband to develop and print in tha States (while I was back in Romania)... They stayed in a drawer for a couple of years,( :O ), and out of the 5 or 6 rolls I got only ONE picture! :(
So my advice to all of the TL-ers...don't ever let your spouse deal with your camera/shots/films...unless you're absolutely sure they know what they're doing! :)))
Nice capture of the guard in motion, John! Have a wonderful, sunny week!
Best regards,
(**) later!

Hi John,

Interesting photo tip, but an even better photo!! I must admit that soccer players have the best legs (did I just say that?;D)..LOL...

I love the evzons and their terrific costumes. Great movement stopped. Perfect timing.

thanks for sharing, Lisa

hello John
it is a lovely post
fine colours
good catch in action
sharp and focused
Though I miss a little leading room (looking room) here.

Manuj Mehta

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  • Tomek Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1264 W: 44 N: 3160] (18766)
  • [2008-06-08 21:19]

Hello John:)
Thank you for this picture!!! you bring my memories, I loved to watch them, it is amazing ho nice they do that and how hard it is.
Great capture of this moment.... hmmm Athina... I missed this town so much!
Best regards - Tom



ciao John..
a perfect scene captured! the pose is really cool!! excellent post.. my really compliments! thanks
ciao Marco

Hi John,

Excellent action shot, well composed in beautiful color tones.
I saw the WS too and I think you look good in that traditional Greek costume, but, because your blue eyes, you dont't have a mediterranean look. :-))

I wish a good week,

P.S. Relating the European Footbal competition Romania and the Netherlands are playing in the same group!


Brilliant, a perfect action shot. Stunning details. It's a wonderful scene. Great note too.
Best wishes,

Help, ja lopen met een tripod is ook niet alles, maar als we met een touwtje gaan spelen wordt het helemaal een bekijks. Volgens mij zijn die stabilisaties in de camera's ook aardig.
John, vertel me niet dat je ook gaat TV kijken!
Wij hebben vanavond een laatste les techniek van het licht fotografie (ik wordt gek van techniek) en de mannen zeggen allemaal vroeger naar huis te gaan - nou ja, dan zit de leraar met alleen 3 dames - wat erg....

Lekker zonnige foto (toch niet touwtje gebruikt??)

Nou -voor 1 keer dan - Hup Holland Hup ^-^.


Hi Bro, very nice. would be prefarable to have a bit of breathing space for the shoe on the right.

Well done and nice colours.
Good closeup.
Nice colours, almost monochromatic with the stones coordinated with the outfit.
Funny to see the man with his leg up.

Haha, the ws with you in the costume is really funny! :-D A dutch-greek guard! hihihi! Very cute.
I like the ws of Dingo doing the crop on the walking guards.

Cheers, sis :)

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  • Dot Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1583 W: 40 N: 3488] (13942)
  • [2008-06-09 6:12]

HI John
Great shot of the raised leg,definitely a good action shot.

Got to say the costume on you in the workshop is rather becoming, and in order to get even with Vasillis for putting you in skirts, you would have to make him a Dutch maiden.


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  • wilth Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 374 W: 43 N: 520] (2028)
  • [2008-06-09 9:34]

Interesting photo and POV.
I know it's been said, but those are some SHOES!!!
Good timing on the capture and nice crop to go along with it, really makes the raised leg work.
Nice and sharp with good lighting as well.
The note is a great addition to the photo.
Going to have to try the 'string thing'. Thanks for that.

Hellow Couisin John,
Beautiful traditional military dresses...
Nice composition and excellent details of pretty
culture. I love it. Turkish name of that soldier is
EFSUN...Tfs. Teşekkürler. Çok güzel....
Your couisin Seyfettin

Best wishes...:))

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  • Jens Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 555 W: 53 N: 1139] (4663)
  • [2008-06-09 10:34]

Hi John
I can see you haw found your lost shoes, never mind, the man are armed and he will never ever give them back to you.
Well captured my friend, nice light and a brilliant focus.
Hope everything are ok in NL....
Best greetings and whishes
Give your beautiful, sweet wife a huge hug from me....

Hoi Johnn
How are you my friend? ;(Nasılsın arkadasım?)
RAP RAP RAP....Excellent composition and lovely shot
here.Beautiful colours and great details (A Greek Quote)ja net...
Greetings from Ankara


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  • Viking Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 996 W: 63 N: 782] (4383)
  • [2008-06-09 12:19]

Hoi John
Ja, ondanks de drukte hou ik je prentjes in de gaten
Hele leuke en ook mooie opname
Geinig idee en die WShops , gillen hier
Hey ik stop ermee even John
2-0 voor Holland , ik ga even 100 % kijken

Hi John

You're a hugely respected member of TL and you have so many fans, so I'm probably going to earn their derision by saying this - but in my opinion this shot doesn't work so well.

I understand the idea - that he's trying to kick away the photo frame and get to the football - but it lacks the creativity of some of your other shots, the whole "out of frame" PP.

Alternatively you could've posted the uncropped version, expanded the frame to the right, and had a football flying out of the shot, as if he's kicking for goal!


  • Silke Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2572 W: 237 N: 6132] (24044)
  • [2008-06-10 3:19]
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HI John
I like the idea here, but I really would have preferred to see all of his foot :)
I know you're trying to tell a funny story, but it doesn't work as a composition. An out-of-bounds frame would have been better, and an even tighter crop from behind.
We're all here to learn about photography, so please forgive me if I find that I mus be honest about this.
Nice light and colours

Thanks for posting the original to a WS at my request. I thought that the image suffered because of a severe crop and my suspicion was correct. I didn't want to suggest that if that's wasn't the case. You know we are always supposed to be suggesting ways to improve each others photographs, that's the whole idea of Trek Lens. I am not too sure about guys foot being so close to the border, well, close enough to be missing a heel. The frame/border you made is interesting but I cannot think of an application for the wall that you could apply this other than on an unframed poster for the wall. Not a bad image but surely it could use some improvement and not "completely" worthy of the rave reviews it has received.
I appreciate you posting the full image, it confirmed my thoughts and helped me understand the graininess on the skin below the guys ear.
Have good day!


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  • ttreen Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1317 W: 129 N: 3792] (15759)
  • [2008-06-10 4:23]

Hello John
Wow they sure make them Tall! All 6 feet of them.... I really enjoyed looking at the WS.. You know what they say about "pay back" Dingo did a wonderful job pasting you on the guards


Hi John,
Good shot,nice photo.
Best regards,

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  • efi Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 198 W: 11 N: 211] (3730)
  • [2008-06-10 14:24]

hi john ;
his leg at 90 degrees and you captured him and his ponpon shoes just at that moment..cute and sharp..bravo.and bravo for your theme's performance..each of members were like acrobats..watching them was great pleasure..

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  • jawa Gold Star Critiquer [C: 1273 W: 0 N: 1] (12005)
  • [2008-06-11 3:32]

Hallo John
Dit houdt je wel fit.
Mooi weergegeven.
Gr Jos

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  • lele Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 796 W: 48 N: 1708] (11179)
  • [2008-06-11 13:31]

ciao john....che capolavoro che hai creato...grande soggetto...molto particolare...bello il pov..ottimi i dettagli...complimenti..

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  • WMcK Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor [C: 663 W: 11 N: 1718] (6837)
  • [2008-06-13 5:22]

Great photo with interesting information and story John. I love the colours and the perfect timing. The writing on the wall gives it an air of seriousness. I can’t imagine doing this for extended periods of time, ok for any time. Great capture and thank you for the great information. I for one will try it. Well done.
Warm Regards
Silke said there is a meet in Montreal in July , once I get the info I might try and get down and shake your hand.

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  • lucbus Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1809 W: 92 N: 1864] (10358)
  • [2008-06-13 16:11]

Hi John,

Looks like Holland does not need to be afraid of these greek guy this year. The way they played against France today.

Great timing on this photo.

Hugs and kisses to Yolanda.


Marlene Dietrich legs, for sure... haha!
beautiful shot, a military pace, funny and interesting note...
Ciao, Antonella

Hello John, I saw this photo some time back & did not have time to critique. My first impression, without reading anyone elses, was a good photo & liked the way you showed the foot seemingly against a wall. IMHO it was well done John! Regards :} Don

Great composition and timing.
It looks like he is stepping out of the photo.
Nice detail capture.

Have a great Sunday,


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