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Preparation for Döner kebabs

Preparation for Döner kebabs
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Copyright: John van Aarle (JohnTulip) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3349 W: 798 N: 8612] (35303)
Genre: People
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2007-05-17
Categories: Food, Humorous
Camera: Canon EOS 30D, Canon EF-S 17-85 mm f: 4-5,6 IS USM, Compact Flash 2-2gb, 62 mm Uv Filter
Exposure: f/8, 1/100 seconds
More Photo Info: [view]
Photo Version: Original Version
Date Submitted: 2007-05-27 15:33
Viewed: 2569
Points: 77
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
TL, we are in Istanbul, the Blue Mosque and in its shade these 3 Gentlemen where talking about food, wich is (ofcourse) very important in Turkey!

Since I can listen and understand Turkish fluantly (to speak it: next year after my second course/book: Turkish in 5 days) I did hear it was about recepies!
The Gent on the back tells the others:

Preparation of meat for döner kebabs
Döner kebab sandwich served in a thick pita (Turkish: pide).
Döner kebab sandwich served in a thick pita (Turkish: pide).

The meat used for making döner kebabs may be lamb, beef, veal[citation needed] or chicken, but never pork. After the BSE crisis (mad cow disease), even fish was used. Generally a döner kebab sandwich is served with a salad made from shredded lettuce.

Usually there is a choice between a hot sauce, a yoghurt sauce containing garlic and a yoghurt sauce containing herbs. Sometimes sheep's cheese (Turkish: beyaz peynir, or "white cheese") can be added.

There are two basic ways of preparing meat for döner kebabs:

* The most common and authentic method is to stack seasoned slices of lean meat onto a vertical skewer in the shape of a cylinder. The stack is cooked by radiant heat from electric elements or gas fired infrared burners.

Often meat, tomatoes, and onions are placed at the top of the stack to drip juices over the meat keeping it moist. (source www.answers.com)

Thanks for your pop-in Folks
John T

**It hurts to find out that what you wanted doesn't match what you dreamed it would be.
Randy K. Milholland

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  • c_rapp Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 933 W: 14 N: 1331] (7535)
  • [2007-05-27 15:36]

Great capture with a cool pov. Nice sharp details and amazing colors. The guy looks very interested in what is being said. TFS

Hello my friend Johnny :-)
Reading your story: in 5 days fluant Turkish, yeah..sure.. my foot!!
That is what I like so much with you, not only always good photo's like this but your funy and good stories.
But fantasy story or not: it is fantastic combined! Byeeee my wonderfull friend;


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  • twin Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 350 W: 105 N: 198] (7374)
  • [2007-05-27 15:45]
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Hi John,
these are the seats between blue mosque and aya sofya... :))
today in a magazine it was written that "Only tourists enjoy in old istanbul, but never the people living here"
I am agree with it...
may be I visit those places 3 times in 10 years... :(
but in your pic I can see 3 guys :P enjoying old part of istanbul...
it is an interesting pic for me as well coz I never see such people around me... And for me these people never eat doner kebap :))))

John.. really I like your Istanbul pics... continue the serial...
waiting for it...
thanks much...

Haven eaten Döner Kebab in Tokyo I know this look!!!! :) It's VERY tasty and it was served with pita bread, a salad and some sort of soup that I didn't like. I wondered if it was camel soup! The soda (cola) was VERY expensive! (700 Yen, about $5.75 USD)
This is a very good photo that shows human very expression well. I like this pic and I can see how the recipie is very important.
Well captured! I saw the window display of the Kebab but didn't know how they did it! Thanks for the great notes!

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  • Ivan Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 365 W: 110 N: 268] (3865)
  • [2007-05-27 16:51]
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Hi John,
They have such expression ! Very interesting subject. I would have like to see the face of the man in the middle. If you had move to the left, this would have been possible and moere equilibrate, IMHO. But maybe the BG would have suffer of this ? Very good details and colours though.

Bonsoir John :o)
Trčs beau portrait de ces 3 hommes ; on est bien dans l'ambiance 'papotage entre hommes' et curieusement ils parlent Kebap ! I love Kebaps with yoghurt sauce !!! Really good POV, bravo !

Great shot! I like the facial expressions of the men.

Good capture. You showed a very intense conversation between these men.
Well seen

Hi John,
Nicely captured moment of these men! I like the tight cropping and the sharpness and details and colours are excellent! As to the recipe all I can say is YUMMM!!! Well done and TFS
Cheers Tina :-)

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  • Dawn Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1101 W: 98 N: 3374] (17650)
  • [2007-05-27 20:39]

NO.. Johnny, you have it wrong my friend.. for didnt you know I too speak fluent Turkish..what!... you dont believe me!?!... I know what they are saying.. you see they are discussing the 3 Kiwi Sheilas from your cruise boat that you met....you see John, 3 turkish men, want dates with 3 kiwi sheilas...plain as day...:-)

Nice sharp pic of the men John, well taken, makes for an interesting shot, and more interesting your note! he he,

DD (double D) :-)

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  • Beger Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3311 W: 1066 N: 5188] (23042)
  • [2007-05-27 22:52]

Hi John,
Reassuring to know that these three men are speaking food and recipes! Hope is not lost on the evolution of the male thought! LOL!
These three men could make a film. What expressive facies! Very sharp image. Well seen and done! Bravo! Annie

Very good portrait John. Great atmosphere. Shot is full of emotions. Well done. tfs. Stev

A very nice shot. And most of all the note.

I love doner kebabs, but those real and proper ones, not those chicken ones you usually get here in Poland. And they say a real kebab, LOL. For me a real one is with a lamb meat, which tastes the best.

First kebab had in Libya, and I loved it, had 11 yrs, and it was pretty spicy, but still enjoyed it.


Super zoom in.
Do not agree with Ivan, the half face adds more questions to the viewer. Good POV! TC

Hi John,
Very beautiful photo my friend.
Well captured.TFS.


Hi John,
This is a lovely scene! Pereft observed and captured (even with a c*n*n) :-)

What the heck just a magnificent shot of master JohnT! [silver GBA]


Hi John,
There is great intensity in this image, the man whith his back towards the viewer only emphasises the urgency and interest that his companions are engrossed in. Great stuff.
Best wishes,

Hi John,

Lovely candid shot of this interesting street scene, with the gentlemen getting ready for a meal, after discussing the details!
Very sharp, great DOF, excellent exposure and natural colors.

Yes, the subject MUST be kebabs. What else could it be?
This is a very good capture of these gentlemen. Sharp, colorful and a good POV.

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  • Emma Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1397 W: 6 N: 1920] (10153)
  • [2007-05-28 6:59]

Hallo John,
Very realistic pictures, clear photo with very good detail and colors. A very interesting picture. Perfectly work of the photographers. Felled me very.
Would congratulate.

Yoghurt sauce with herbs and garlic and sheeps cheese please....
Thanks John for sharing this lovely picture with us, I checked and yes you have added humour to the categorie. Well, all okay then.

Really nice people shot here John, capturing the man with so much interest on his face! I like it very much! Great story! I like the tight crop on the men, very interesting!
I'll be back..........

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  • Fons Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1165 W: 2 N: 215] (16615)
  • [2007-05-28 10:41]

Wat een typische koppen!
Alle drie met die pausmutsen op
Zeer mooi

Hi John.
beautiful shot here.Very lovely photo with perfect sharpness and detail.Wonderful presentation.
well done.TFS.Greetings.

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  • HaBeMa Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 520 W: 33 N: 619] (3072)
  • [2007-05-28 16:06]

Hi dear my master John;thank you for this turkey introduction.....

Hi John, we have one city back in Western Asutralia where there is a mall and many Europeans gather and spend their mornings drinking coffee and chatting. The Greeks are easily recognized by their clothing. You did well here, I like the composition and the colours and detail are strong. TFS,

Many thanks for your comment on ‘Foggy Days I’

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  • jawa Gold Star Critiquer [C: 1273 W: 0 N: 1] (12005)
  • [2007-05-29 3:40]

Mooi deze hangplek voor ouderen. Mooie candid.
Gr Jos

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  • Silke Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2572 W: 237 N: 6132] (24044)
  • [2007-05-29 7:32]

An excellent composition, John!
I love the expressions you have captured. and your notes add some amusing details to the whole
(back with :)

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  • SkyF Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1666 W: 136 N: 1263] (6138)
  • [2007-05-29 8:53]

Hi John,
looks like an very interesting conversation. Very well captured, great POV to convey the feeling of eavesdropping. Excellent sharpness and the details and expressin of the faces are wonderful.

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  • Mitra Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 1153 W: 70 N: 1116] (16)
  • [2007-05-29 16:08]

Oh, I love duner kebab with french fries. Hummmmmmmmm, it's delicious but you have to know where to eat. So can you speak Turkish Arkasasim?
Nice shot with cool face and good sharpness.
Eline salik.

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  • milas Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2841 W: 398 N: 3076] (34114)
  • [2007-05-29 16:24]

hi John ;
döner kebapla bir alaka kuramadım ama hacı amcaların bu durumları çok güzel yakalamışsın tebrikler selamlar

This is a very serious conversation, you would find the same type here in New Orleans! Well done, colors, clarity and composition, thanks for sharing,

Hahahaha, great close portrait shot and usefull note about Dunner Kebab :-) Bye

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  • deains Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 187 W: 33 N: 1169] (5051)
  • [2007-05-30 10:26]

A great photo of these Turkish men John! When I was there, 1964, we were not suppose to eat the local food, but we would get bread from a bakery then shish kabob, lamb on a skewer, from a street vender along with lettuce & tomato for a great sandwich. TFS your photo Don

Fantastic moment, merhaba John,
I like to see how they discuss, the doubtfully face of the one man, the friendly one of the other - it seems I can hear them talking - but of course I don't understand them, I can't speak turkish ;-)
Wonderful, thanks and cok selamlar
Sabine - wishnugaruda

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  • inaam Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1816 W: 39 N: 465] (4859)
  • [2007-05-31 8:14]

The capture of expression is awesome, an interesting moment has been captured from life. Commentray note is useful to understand the perspective. Döner kebab is widely available in Spain, but quality and cost varies.

Many thanks for sharing a moment from daily life of Turkey.

Love the expressions! Definately a very important conversation! Well caught Johnty.TFS. Cheers, Pat.

Hi John! Great character portraits, candid shot conversation....Food is important everywhere, not just in Turkey! Now that summer is finally here, and Christan bought me a (Australian style)gas BBQ, there will be lots of outdoor cooking, and your kebab recipe will come in handy!

Merhaba My Dear John,
Very beautiful photo my friend.
Well captured.TFS.
Best Wishes,

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