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Weekly/monthly workshop photo for everyone. Zeperix Gold Star Critiquer [C: 136 W: 4 N: 116] (1069)::2008-12-23 3:42
One of the problems I run into is comparing techniques used on different photos by different people to assess skill and technique (read that "Can I learn something from them..."). If TL had a weekly/monthly photo that everyone can workshop it would be easier to see which techniques work well and to learn from them. Everyone would post their processed version to TL. The entries would only be made visible after the closing date. This would level the playing field for everyone. Such postings can then be rated and people can see from the ratings what techniques gets the most interest.
Re: Weekly/monthly workshop photo for everyone. SunToucher Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1376 W: 234 N: 1593] (8380)::2008-12-23 4:03
Hi Cecil,
A similar thing has been done before, but more in a 'wild' type of way. Since TL does not allow any kind of competition, the result was that after a fierce discussion members got disabled. So I don't think they will allow it.

In a different perspective. I think that some skills and techniques can be learned with a workshop but only those of post processing. Good photography still starts with taking a good photo. (e.g. composition, exposure, etc.) So to me, the learning curve of a workshop is limited and will partially help with becomming a better photographer. A good critique or discussion about camera settings, understanding what light and exposure does to film or a sensor and what to do to get the most of out of your camera is much more important than a showcase of people fiddling around with a small size photo.

Niek
Re: Weekly/monthly workshop photo for everyone. Zeperix Gold Star Critiquer [C: 136 W: 4 N: 116] (1069)::2008-12-23 6:51
Granted Niek! Pity though. Still think it would be a good and equal playing ground. But as you mentioned, the "bonfires of the vanities" will probably steer such a thing into the wrong direction (or has already done so in the past). I'm just not good enough to compare two different photos' processing - the process gets skewed by the great number of unequal variables.
Re: Weekly/monthly workshop photo for everyone. appalcarp Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1117 W: 154 N: 633] (4198)::2008-12-24 14:11
This is something you can do in one way by looking at other people's workshops or a photo with quite a few of them that have been done and you can learn some more. As Niek, says, however, you'll mostly learn about pp work and not the photo technique employed by the photographer(s).
Re: Weekly/monthly workshop photo for everyone. Zeperix Gold Star Critiquer [C: 136 W: 4 N: 116] (1069)::2008-12-26 20:54
Granted. But it is so much more difficult to get all the TL photographers to, for example, use the V&A Waterfront in Cape Town as a topic to demonstrate their abilities. A weekly/monthly workshop photo would allow you to compare apples to apples. It is in no way meant to replace all of the photography skill set. At best it would show how someone else approached post processing, which (to an open mind) would offer recourse to other avenues of thought as a distinct possibility. At worst (and I suppose there would be "worst") a new spate of confirmation bias arguments would ensue...?
Re: Weekly/monthly workshop photo for everyone. atomas59 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 597 W: 746 N: 637] (3826)::2008-12-27 8:26
I find interesting that some people, think that a good camera settings will give you a perfect shot. Camera settings do have their own limits. Under perfect condition...Camera setting alone, will do fantastic...but if you add a few hic, such as high contrast, different light situation and such...a good technic in post processing becomes more than handy. Lab work always been complementary to shooting a good photography. Master have been using all kind of techniques, including lab treatement to produce high quality picture...In the numerical age...modern lab as become, photo editors. So learning how to use it, is almost essentiel if you take photography seriously.
Re: Weekly/monthly workshop photo for everyone. appalcarp Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1117 W: 154 N: 633] (4198)::2008-12-28 15:01
True, but an out of focus, overexposed or otherwise sorry shot simply cannot be improved to a usable state. The photo must be good at the outset, at least reasonably good, so the settings have to be 'close.'
Re: Weekly/monthly workshop photo for everyone. atomas59 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 597 W: 746 N: 637] (3826)::2008-12-28 17:13
Of course, I couldn't agree more with you. I wasn't talking about salvation of badly exposed shot or wrongly evaluated and captured. but more about fine tuning and optomizing a good shot. I've printed B&W and colours for years, the best result always start with a good correctly exposed negative. The same apply to numeric.